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Geopolitics Decanted with Dmitri Alperovitch

China's Economic Peak Is Over: Credit Dries Up, Deflation Looms

China's share of global GDP peaked in 2021 and has been declining since; credit growth has fallen from 18% to 5%, and real growth may be only 1.5%-2%; the US has outperformed for five straight years. The narrative of industrial chain dominance is disproven by data; the future looks more like Japan-style deflation.

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To counter the mainstream narrative that 'China's new industries = growth engine,' grounding judgments in credit, special bonds, and demographic data that can be verified; for those who want to update their long-term views on China and the US.

The argument · tap a timestamp to hear it

0:05

China has missed its window to overtake the US

Dmitri sets the tone with official data: China's share of global GDP peaked at 18.5% in 2021 and has declined every year since; the US has risen from 24% to about 26%. He concludes that China has almost no chance of replacing the US as the world's largest economy, and the US economic advantage is likely to widen over the next decade. Logan fully agrees and steers the discussion toward a 'decline, not collapse' framework.

— Dmitri Alperovitch
2:11

The root of China's slowdown is the end of credit expansion

Logan attributes China's slowdown to the end of extraordinary credit expansion. After the financial crisis, China added credit equivalent to one-third of global GDP in eight years; credit growth fell from an average of 18% in 2007-2016 to 9% after 2017, and now stands at just over 5%. Once credit stops, borrowers can no longer refinance, and investment slows. Official figures still show 5.2% growth in 2023 and 5% in 2024 and 2025, but he estimates real growth since 2022 has been only 1.5%-2%, already below the US.

— Logan Wright
6:14

Using purchasing power parity rewards deflation

Against the common rebuttal that 'China has already surpassed the US on a PPP basis,' Logan says PPP comparisons are still meaningful for developing countries but untenable between the world's two largest economies: scoring by PPP rewards China for producing deflation—the lower domestic prices are, the stronger the economy looks, yet deflation is precisely the problem. He also stresses that debt is repaid in nominal local currency, so nominal GDP matters; the exchange rate is not an exogenous variable but an external signal of China's policy capacity.

— Logan Wright
13:25

Capital controls are not a cure, only a time-buyer

Logan concedes that China's capital controls are effective but argues they are not a panacea for massive macro imbalances. The impossible trinity dictates that free capital flow, exchange rate stability, and monetary policy independence can only be achieved two at a time. The function of capital controls is to slow outflows, suppress rapid cross-border volatility, and channel outflows into channels visible to the government—Huawei and BYD can go global aggressively, while the overseas acquisitions of private firms like HNA in 2016 were halted; this is the two sides of the same screening mechanism.

— Logan Wright
17:35

Credit still subsidizes old industries, not new ones

Logan rebuts the claim that 'credit is shifting to more productive new industries': central bank data show that the share of loans issued at or below the Loan Prime Rate has risen from the 20s to 59%, indicating banks are continuously subsidizing. The share of special revenue bonds directed to so-called strategic industries rose only from about 2% in 2021 to 6% in 2025, with the vast majority still flowing to traditional sectors. Using the 2023 input-output table, he estimates that electric vehicles, batteries, AI, solar, etc., together account for about 6.3% of GDP, while the decline in real estate and infrastructure investment is about six times the increase in these new industries.

— Logan Wright
27:45

Europe is the last buyer of China's excess capacity

Logan judges that if Europe turns protectionist, China will be 'truly finished': the US market has narrowed and transshipment space is limited, and the developing world cannot absorb China's excess capacity while maintaining its own growth. He warns that the US focus on bilateral trade deficits is wrong—deficits are determined by the savings-investment gap; tariffs only redistribute deficits, and not addressing the fundamental imbalance will only breed more transshipment trade.

— Logan Wright
34:58

Without touching taxes, domestic demand won't take off

Logan draws a parallel with Soviet Kosygin reforms: Brezhnev chose to pivot to a technological revolution between advancing reforms and maintaining ideology. To convert savings into consumption, the real lever is tax policy—extracting resources from high-net-worth individuals, state-owned enterprises, and private firms excluded from the financial system. But he thinks it is almost unimaginable for Xi Jinping to go on TV and announce that 'the fiscal and financial system of the past 15 years will no longer apply in the future'; Beijing's insistence on the 5% growth narrative is partly to undermine export controls and discourage Western investment in alternative supply chains.

— Logan Wright
39:00

China in 2035 will look like Japan today

Logan predicts that without major policy changes, China's economy in 2035 will resemble Japan's: persistent deflation, persistent external surpluses, currency depreciation pressure, and low interest rates. The hardest constraint is demographics—China's actual average age at death is 73, and the early PRC baby boom will bring a population decline of 50-60 million over the next decade, about 3%-4% of the total population; even maintaining the low birth rate of 7.92 million last year won't stop it. He also notes that the fiscal deficit is already close to $2 trillion per year, about 9.5% of GDP, leaving far fewer resources available than in the past. Finally, he says that if China truly wins by export share, it will invite stronger political backlash—'winning is losing.'

— Logan Wright

In their own words · checked verbatim

According to China's own economic data, which is chronically underreported, China peaked as a proportion of the global economy in 2021 at 18.5% of global GDP and has declined ever since.

Dmitri Alperovitch0:05

China saw basically an expansion of around a third of global GDP in new credit in just eight years. And we've never seen anything like this.

Logan Wright2:11

China's financial system is a bunch of assets without markets for them.

Logan Wright9:21

it's not crisis or collapse, it's decay that you're seeing in terms of this pressure.

Logan Wright25:43

It doesn't have to be called a quote unquote financial crisis, but it has all the same consequences of a financial crisis.

Logan Wright33:55

The average age at which people die is 73 in China. And so there was a baby boom basically right after the end of the Civil War.

Logan Wright40:04

the dilemma that Xi faces, the dilemma that China faces is if you win, you lose.

Logan Wright44:07

Figures

China's peak share of global GDP18.5% (2021), declining since0:05
US share of global GDPabout 26%, up from 24% in 20210:05
China's average credit growth18% in 2007-2016; 9% since 2017; about 5% currently2:11
China's official vs. real growthOfficial: 5.2% in 2023, 5% in 2024/2025; Real: 1.5%-2% since 20223:13
Share of loans at or below LPR59%, up from the 20s18:35
Share of special bonds to strategic industriesabout 2% in 2021 to about 6% in 202520:37
New strategic industries as share of GDPabout 6.3%21:39
China's fiscal deficitabout $2 trillion/year, about 9.5% of GDP25:43
Evergrande's total debt$310 billion, roughly Finland's GDP at the time32:55

Glossary

PPP / purchasing power parity
A method comparing the purchasing power of two currencies based on a basket of goods prices, often used for developing countries.
Impossible Trinity / trilemma
The principle that free capital flow, exchange rate stability, and monetary policy independence can only be achieved two at a time.
Loan Prime Rate (LPR)
China's benchmark lending rate, currently around 3%.
Special Revenue Bonds / local special bonds
Bonds issued by Chinese local governments to finance specific projects, where project returns must cover principal and interest.
Total Factor Productivity (TFP)
Output growth after accounting for capital and labor inputs, driven by technology and allocative efficiency.
Demand-side Controls
Measures that counter a supplier by restricting import demand, rather than only controlling the other side's supply capacity.

How to listen

Who it's for

Investors and researchers making macro judgments about China and the US, and business decision-makers who treat China as a market or supply chain source; especially those who want to test the 'China's new industries = growth engine' narrative.

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