Soothing a crying child isn't "reinforcing bad behavior"—it's not even intentional action
A doctor said soothing "reinforces" bad behavior, but reinforcement requires conscious learning. A two-year-old's struggling and kicking in a clinic is a survival-driven reflex, not intentional action, and cannot be reinforced.
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A doctor condemns soothing as coddling
A mom brought her two-year-old to neurology. The doctor moved fast, pinning the child to the exam table; the child thrashed and kicked from pure survival reflex. Mom gently patted his leg to soothe him. The neurologist accused her on the spot of "indulging" and "reinforcing" inappropriate behavior, demanding she ignore the crying and never respond. The doctor even recommended full-time daycare, less time with mom, arguing the child would otherwise develop "dependency and addiction" to her. That advice was far outside the neurologist's professional scope.
Soothing an anxious child is proper attuned parenting
Hershberg was blunt: the advice was outdated and nonsensical—"Did we time-travel back to 1951?" She stressed that while the doctor's neurology guidance was sound and professional, the parenting and attachment claims had no footing. Both she and Bren agreed: the mom's instinct was right. When a child is hurting in an unfamiliar place—like an exam room—soothing him, offering comfort, is exactly what attuned parenting does. No ambiguity.
— Dr. Rebecca HershbergReinforcement requires intent; kicking is an involuntary reflex
Bren identified the logical flaw in the doctor's reasoning. The doctor had interpreted the child's thrashing as "intentional misbehavior," then concluded that soothing it rewards and reinforces that behavior. But "reinforcement" as a concept only applies if there is conscious learning and subjective intent. A child's thrashing is involuntary, reflexive, a survival-threat response—not a choice. If the behavior isn't a choice, there is no learning happening, and nothing to reinforce.
— Dr. Sarah BrenDaycare and secure attachment are independent issues
Hershberg addressed the doctor's tangent about full-time daycare. Research gives reasons to send children to daycare and reasons not to—it depends on the family and their needs, and kids turn out fine either way. But the key point: secure attachment and daycare attendance are independent questions, not linked. Not using daycare won't make a child "addicted" to mom; using daycare won't make a child stop loving mom.
— Dr. Rebecca HershbergAttachment is not addiction to mother
When the doctor said the child would become "addicted" to mom, all three hosts agreed this was mislabeling a healthy concept. Addiction is defined as repeatedly doing something despite knowing consequences worsen. Relying on your primary caregiver for emotional regulation and safety is biologically normal and healthy, even increases survival odds—it has nothing to do with addiction. The two don't just differ; they are not even in the same frame.
— Dr. Sarah BrenFind a new doctor; don't relitigate this visit
Upshur saw a larger point for all parents: defending and comforting your child never needs apologizing. Staying alert and skeptical of any interaction that unsettles you is always fair—this "Am I wrong?" feeling will resurface later when a teacher pressures you. For this visit: see a new neurologist with a blank slate, skip going back to hash it out. After a few more clinic visits, parents naturally build their own judgment about what fits.
— Dr. Emily UpshurOne difficult clinic visit won't damage your child
Bren closed by reassuring the mom: as her child accumulates more positive medical and life experiences, this unpleasant moment will be gradually "diluted" and won't become something to worry has "damaged" the kid. All three agreed parenting has no universal right answer. The point of Q&As like this is to help parents find what works for their own child amid competing expert advice, and trust their own instinct.
— Dr. Sarah BrenIn their own words · checked verbatim
Seriously and so bizarre and it’s like, I’m sorry, did she travel to 1951? It’s so just dated and wrong and weird.
Dr. Rebecca Hershberg2:25
if your child is in distress, especially in a new and unfamiliar environment like a doctor’s office, comfort your child, soothe your child. That is the way to be an attuned parent. 100%.
Dr. Rebecca Hershberg3:09
Reinforcement presumes learning and conscious intentional behavior.
Dr. Sarah Bren5:11
I love the addicted to your mother. I was like, it’s my favorite line of the whole thing. You will become addicted to your mother. You know what? That’s kind of normal.
Dr. Emily Upshur7:01
An addiction is something by definition that is not healthy to be continuing to be stuck doing over and over and over again, despite increasingly detrimental consequences. That’s the definition of addiction.
Dr. Sarah Bren7:19
never apologize for advocating for your child.
Dr. Emily Upshur7:58
And your child will have more and more and more positive experiences and this will get diluted.
Dr. Sarah Bren9:42
Glossary
- Reinforcement
- A behavioral concept where an action is strengthened through reward, making it more likely to recur; requires conscious learning.
- Bottom-up vs. top-down behavior
- A framework for distinguishing involuntary physiological reflexes (bottom-up) from conscious cognitive behavior (top-down), developed by Mona Delahooke.
How to listen
Parents who doubt themselves when professionals invoke "reinforcing bad behavior" and "indulging" at medical visits—especially new parents who just clashed with a doctor.
The opening 0:00–2:31 is standard intro and host chitchat; skip straight to the listener question.