When a child asks permission for everything, the problem is perfectionism, not the child
A four-and-a-half-year-old boy comes home from preschool and starts asking permission for everything; his mother finds that when she sets perfectionism aside and stops handing him answers, his ability to solve problems on his own far exceeds what she expected.
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"Be the best" is a lesson in "you are not good enough"
Sara grew up in a family whose motto was "be the best." Her parents meant well, of course, but no one person can come first in academics, sports, music and art all at once, so from very early on "be the best" got bound up, in her mind and in her body, with "you are not good enough." She started experiencing anxiety at 9 or 10, and it got worse as she grew up. She knew she absolutely did not want the same thing for Som, so she and her husband agreed early on: no pushing him to perform, follow his interests instead. That starting point comes out of her own experience, not out of an abstract philosophy.
— SaraThe first thing preschool taught him was to ask permission first
A year after Som started preschool, beyond separation anxiety, his behavior changed noticeably too: when he wanted to draw, he would come and ask, "Can I get the markers?" There is a yes space in Sara's home, and he had always simply taken materials off the shelf himself, so this asking put her on alert. Her guess is that it came back with him from the preschool environment, where anything you do has to go through an adult first. And the relationship she cares most about is this one: at home, "no" is for genuinely unsafe situations, and everything else was supposed to be a yes by default. That is what pushed her to look for tools to supply the missing learning support at home.
— SaraAn immigrant's self-doubt turns most easily into enrichment-class anxiety
Her son had just turned four, and every child his age around him was signed up for swimming, soccer, ice skating, even musical theater. As an immigrant, Sara started doubting herself over and over: what if these extracurriculars are exactly what this society requires? What if not signing him up leaves him behind, and it is all my fault? On a coaching call in the membership course, Jen asked her, "Who is the child in front of you?" and then had her think about her own core values. Those two prompts became her compass every time she wavered, and they also stopped her from convicting herself on the grounds of being an outsider.
— SaraPerfectionism comes back in through judgments about the learning itself
Sara used to believe deeply that setting impossible standards for herself was what got her where she is, and that is in fact true, but the price was paid by her mind and body. In her behavior she could hold back from straightening the sticker Som had stuck on crooked, but she had not noticed that perfectionism had simply changed form: she kept judging their learning explorations together as "not creative enough, not deep enough." Once Jen named that as perfectionism, both her anxiety and her guilt eased. Now, when the critic starts up in her head, she says to herself: "That's perfectionism talking."
— SaraThere is only one first step: do not give the answer
When she first joined the Learning Membership, Sara was quite lost about the very concept of "learning exploration" and did not know what her own position in it should be. The simplest entry point Jen gave her was this: start by not giving your child the answer, and the later steps will follow naturally. So she practiced saying "I wonder why," "What do you think?" and "Let's go to the library and find a book." A year later this has become second nature, and not only for questions of fact: when a real conflict comes up, she brainstorms with him too, and sometimes the solution comes from Som himself. That one minimum move takes the adult down from the position of knowing everything.
— SaraGive the smallest possible step and the child extrapolates the rest
Sara says she no longer worries about giving a wrong answer or about her child not being able to answer. The path a child learns by is to observe patterns, propose theories, then extrapolate from the experience he already has — an iterative process that keeps correcting itself, driven by inner curiosity. In the drone example, seagulls were being disturbed by a drone and Som asked "What is a drone?" She knew that this time she had to supply a bit of key information, so she explained that it flies by remote control. Som immediately thought of his own remote-control helicopter and talked for 15 minutes straight about roughly how drones fly. The adult gave only the smallest step, and it landed exactly on the knowledge he already had.
— SaraA torn cheese lid counts as a real problem-solving workout
On the way home from grocery shopping, Som was eating sliced cheese and tore off the resealable lid, which Sara had told him beforehand not to tear. She was very tired that day and a little irritated, and halfway through what she was saying she realized this was a problem-solving opportunity, so she asked: "What could we do so the cheese doesn't dry out?" Som said "I don't know" at first; she asked again, and he answered right away, "Put it in a Ziploc bag." Something that would have left them both feeling bad turned into a genuine bit of mental exercise. Sara says it took almost no effort, because a year of practice has already built the reflex.
— SaraWhat matters most is not reading, writing and arithmetic, but metacognition
Looking back at where she was a year ago, Sara says what she would tell her earlier self is: you don't actually know yet what matters most. A year ago she thought the most important things were reading, writing and arithmetic; now she genuinely believes the most important skills Som can learn are creative problem solving and metacognition. Supporting those does not require a lesson plan — only quiet observation, giving him time and space, respecting his interests, and then adding a little scaffolding from the side. If she had known this last year, she says, things would have been a lot easier. This is close to where the whole method in the episode finally lands.
— SaraIn their own words · checked verbatim
I grew up in a family where the motto was be the best. And of course, I couldn't be the best at everything, academics, sports, music, art, so from a very early age, being the best was paired with you're not good enough in my brain and my body.
Sara6:02
So he would feel like doing art, but he would come and ask me, oh, can I grab the markers? And that was very alarming to me, because we have, he has his yes space, his shelf with all of his supplies. And before preschool, he would just go grab whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted.
Sara7:58
You asked, who is the child in front of you? And I've been asking myself that every time that I find myself questioning my values. You also said, what are your core values? So like always coming back to that, to the core values.
Sara11:04
I was convinced that setting impossible expectations and standard for myself was what got me to where I am now. It had actually worked pretty well for me.
Sara14:56
for me, it's all in in the process. So through the membership, we learn about how learning happens and how a child observes patterns, theorizes and extrapolates based on those patterns, and kind of applies what he's observed before to new things that he sees out in the world.
Sara29:25
And I launched into expressing my frustration, but instantly realized that this is a great problem-solving opportunity. So I changed my tone kind of a halfway I started by “Sommy, I told you not to tear it off, but you did.” Then pause for a millisecond, and I went, “what can we do so the cheese doesn't go dry?”
Sara35:19
I would tell her that you don't know yet, what is actually most important a year ago, I thought what's most important is reading, writing and arithmetic. Now I truly believe that the most important skills that Som can learn are creative problem solving and metacognition.
Sara51:26
Figures
| Sara's age | 38 | 4:35 |
| Som's age | 4 and a half | 4:35 |
| Age her anxiety began | 9 or 10 | 6:02 |
| How long after starting preschool the permission-asking appeared | a year | 7:58 |
| How long Som talked about drones | 15 minutes | 29:25 |
| Drive to Sara's parents after the move | about 50 minutes | 47:59 |
| Year Som starts school | 2026 | 47:59 |
| Timing of the move | about a month from now | 47:59 |
Glossary
- lantern consciousness
- A phrase Sara borrows for the way a child takes in information slowly and evenly, like a lantern, connecting ideas as they go.
- yes space
- A designated safe area of the home where the child can freely take materials and do things without asking first.
- learning exploration
- An exploration that starts from the child's interest or question, with the adult providing support.
- scaffolding
- Support the adult calibrates to what the child already understands — just enough, without doing the thinking for him.
- metacognition
- Awareness and regulation of one's own thinking process, such as noticing how you are thinking.
How to listen
Parents of preschoolers whose child has started asking permission for everything, or who are caught in the "everyone else is signing up for classes" anxiety; especially useful for anyone with perfectionist tendencies who is afraid of passing that anxiety down.
Jessica's channel promotion at the top can be skipped; if you only want the method, start from the background on Sara's family.