Henry I didn't kill his brother — he invented the precedent that a king can jail anyone he likes
Henry I locked up his own brother and cousin in palaces indefinitely, with no charge and no trial. He broke the rules of chivalry, and planted two clauses of Magna Carta that forbid a king from seizing people at will.
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Ferres surrendered, but the war wasn't over
Robert had Ferres's garrison surrender; Henry didn't trust him to go in person and sent William of Ferres to talk them down, after which Ferres surrendered. But several of Henry's charters from this period still mention unnamed military operations in Normandy, which means the fighting continued and some of Robert's old men still wanted to fight. Orderic singles out Robert of Bolem as still trying to raise Count Helius of Maine for further resistance. Taking a fortress, in other words, is not the same as completing a conquest; the real mopping-up is handling these still-wavering nobles one by one.
— JamieOrderic's surrender story has a very suspicious timeline
Orderic says Bolem wanted to keep fighting for Robert, went to win over Helius, got talked around by a Helius speech, defected to Henry, and was rewarded for it. Jamie calls the story "fishy as hell": at Tinchebray, the premise of Helius's daring charge was precisely that he was sure Bolem would not hit his flank — and Bolem did in fact turn and ride away. So the more plausible reading is that the two had already struck their deal before the battle, and Orderic simply moved the conversation to after it, because betraying your lord before a battle looks too ugly. It also explains why Bolem got his ancestral lands back while Argentin alone was withheld — that's a strategic site, and Henry wasn't about to hand it to a man who might flip at any moment.
— JamieHenry ran a full reset at Lisieux
Henry convened the great nobles of Normandy at Lisieux and ordered the restoration of order under ducal rule, strictly banning robbery, plunder and arson, and pointedly telling Sir Stephen it was time to put the matches away. On church property, he demanded the return of any land that had belonged to the church at the death of his father William the Conqueror; going further, any land that had belonged to anyone at that time — including grants made by his brother Robert — was voided entirely. Jamie calls this "Law & Order, Normandy style" — not patching things up, but wiping out every change in property rights made during Robert's rule in one stroke.
— JamieMaking the courts work bought him allies
Suger's monastery had its lands and rights stripped during Robert's rule and fell into ruin; within two years of Henry taking Normandy, it had fully recovered its former standing. Suger himself admits they got it back by actively pressing their case in court, and that they could win there because of Henry's judicial reform of the ducal court. The result was that Suger became one of Henry's staunchest supporters. Jamie's conclusion: sometimes the best way to gain an ally is to make the most basic functions of government work.
— JamieThe numbers in Henry's letter to Anselm are obviously inflated
Henry wrote to Anselm boasting about Tinchebray, saying he had taken ten thousand soldiers and four hundred knights prisoner, with the dead too numerous to count. Jamie thinks this is plainly exaggerated: Henry cared intensely about numbers and taxation and was unlikely to get the count wrong, so he was deliberately talking big. Anselm's reply is described by the historian Hollister as "rejoicing in Henry's victory," but what Jamie reads in it is a barb: Anselm calls him king and duke, then prays that God continue to guide him "from earthly honour to heavenly glory" — meaning, don't get cocky, don't test God's patience. Edmer, meanwhile, credits the victory to the understanding Henry reached with Anselm, which amounts to saying Anselm was the real protagonist.
— JamieThe handling of noble captives starts to show teeth
Common soldiers were made to swear to keep the peace and released quickly, because holding them produces no wealth. But nobles and knights played by another set of rules. William of Ferrars was released, and Edgar the Atheling was released unconditionally too — Jamie says this was probably to please Queen Matilda, since she was Edgar's niece, and the man was a "jinx" better shipped off to the French court. But Robert II of Stuteville had to trade his English Stuteville lands for his freedom, and Henry turned around and gave those lands to his own man Nigel. Harsher still: Stuteville's father, Robert the Elder, was also captured at Tinchebray, and Henry simply held him indefinitely, to deter the son from rebelling again.
— JamieJailing Stuteville broke the rules of chivalry
Jamie stresses that Stuteville had committed no crime; none of the men captured at Tinchebray were charged with anything. They were enemy combatants, and under twelfth-century rules they could either be ransomed or released on oath. Henry treated him as a traitor. Some will draw the analogy to the Conqueror jailing Wolfnoth and Morcar, but Jamie pushes back: that was different. Morcar was a rebel, and when Wolfnoth was imprisoned the Godwinsons were in open revolt. Nobles were indeed imprisoned, but the precondition was a serious crime, not a regime deciding you were politically inconvenient. What Henry did was an open trampling of cultural norms.
— JamieGoing after his own brother is a different order of thing
Henry did the same to Robert Curthose and Count William of Mortain, and this is more shocking than Stuteville, because the targets were his own brother and his own cousin, and it was done openly — a dare to anyone to stop him. Jamie points out that behind this, Henry's bargain with the English ruling class was changing: first it was "let me break the rules of succession and take England, and I'll restore law and order"; after taxes rose and life didn't improve, it became "let me take Normandy, and I'll restore law and order"; now that Normandy was his, the bargain became "I restore law and order, but occasionally I can also break the law and treat political enemies as ordinary criminals." Jamie says Henry couldn't have known it, but about a hundred years later, two clauses of Magna Carta would specifically bar a king from seizing and imprisoning people at will.
— JamieThe four-year-old Clito was more dangerous than any adult captive
William Clito was Robert's legitimate eldest son, and by the order of succession he, not Henry, was the lawful heir to Normandy. Henry's justification for taking Normandy was that Robert was a bad duke, but even so, the next in line was not Henry. Clito's very existence was a rallying banner for Henry's enemies, and he was only four years old — whoever got custody of him could shape him, which made him enormously attractive to disgruntled nobles. But imprisoning a four-year-old was an absolute line you did not cross in the twelfth century. Henry's solution was to release Clito and hand him to the newly reconciled Norman magnate Helius of Sansen — not Helius of Maine, but Clito's brother-in-law, married to one of Curthose's illegitimate daughters, a close man of Curthose's who had been made Count of Ark by Robert.
— JamieIn their own words · checked verbatim
And look, I wasn't there, so I can't say how it really went down, but that is fishy as hell.
Jamie4:09
And I know they say, no, take backsies, but I'm the king here and we're doing take backsies. Welcome to Law & Order, Normandy style.
Jamie8:26
Sometimes the best way to gain allies is just to make sure that the basic government can function.
Jamie9:28
he preferred to contend by counsel rather than by the sword
Jamie16:40
What you aren't supposed to do is indefinitely imprison someone important just on a whim, without a trial or even an accusation of a crime.
Jamie22:03
I'll restore law and order, but on occasion, I also get to break the law and treat political enemies as common criminals. That is not good.
Jamie24:12
And while Henry was ruthless and was willing to press his luck by keeping noble prisoners without an opportunity for parole, there were some lines you simply could not cross in the 12th century. And one of them was imprisoning small children.
Jamie29:18
Figures
| Soldiers Henry's letter claims were captured | 10,000 soldiers | 10:28 |
| Knights Henry's letter claims were captured | 400 knights | 10:28 |
| Tinchebray dead as recorded by Roger of Torany | no more than 60 | 15:36 |
| Age of William Clito when captured | about 4 | 0:00 |
Glossary
- chivalry
- The unwritten twelfth-century Norman noble code governing the treatment of captives, ransom and release on oath.
- Magna Carta
- The 1215 document English nobles forced the king to sign, two clauses of which limit the king's power to seize and imprison people at will.
- vicomte
- A local administrative and judicial office under the Duke of Normandy; the inheritance restored to Bolem included the viscountcy of Valais.
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The opening source-criticism on Ferres's surrender and Bolem's defection can be fast-forwarded; the core mechanism starts at 18:51.