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The sugars on a cell's surface aren't frosting — they're the brain's moat

The mucins on the endothelial cells of brain blood vessels are like a redwood forest; with age the leaves fall off and the blood-brain barrier gets leaky. Restore the enzyme with gene therapy and mice remember better.

GlycobiologyBlood-brain barrierNeurodegenerationBioorthogonal chemistryDrug delivery

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A chemist explains how glycobiology unexpectedly opened up the blood-brain barrier, with concrete mechanisms and numbers; the brain shuttle company in the back half is the most valuable part.

The argument · timestamps estimated from transcript position

8:15

Glycobiology was abandoned by its tools

In the 1960s and 70s, carbohydrates were taken as seriously as proteins, but once recombinant DNA arrived, proteins could be cloned, expressed and studied — sugars could not. Sugars are not a product of the central dogma; they are the output of enzymes encoded by hundreds of genes, and molecular biology techniques cannot operate on them directly. So the field rushed toward what could be accelerated, and sugar science, technically hard, was left where it stood. Bertozzi says this is not because sugars are unimportant, but because ‘not studying a field doesn't mean it isn't important’.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
17:19

She built the flashlight first, then talked biology

When she started her lab at Berkeley in 1996, sugar science was missing two things proteins had long had: sequencing (knowing which sugars exist) and live imaging (seeing where sugars are and how they move). Her lab's initial goal was to fill exactly those two holes, and it took about a decade to develop bioorthogonal chemistry — a chemical reaction that can label sugars inside living cells, now a general-purpose tool in the life sciences. Only with a flashlight can you see where no one has looked before.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
26:14

Nobody had asked how sugars change with age

Tony Wyss-Coray's lab was studying transcriptomic and proteomic changes in brain endothelial cells with age, which is standard practice, but nobody had asked about the glycome. Sophia, a student who had rotated in Bertozzi's lab, moved to Tony's lab and brought the sugar imaging reagents to compare the brain vasculature of old and young mice. The result was ‘absolutely striking’ — the sugar changes were far more dramatic than any phenotype observed in the transcriptome or proteome.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
28:08

Brain endothelial cells have redwood-like mucins

Mucins sit on the cell surface like giant redwoods: tall, stiff, straight, projecting above everything else. The mucin forest on brain endothelial cells is far thicker than on the blood vessels of heart, kidney or muscle — a landscape unique to the blood-brain barrier. With age this forest turns into winter: leaves gone, trees bare, you can see straight through; young mice are spring, dense with foliage. Sophia found that the enzymes responsible for synthesizing these sugars drop in abundance in old mice. Restore the enzymes with a gene therapy vector and the mucins come back, blood-brain barrier leakage falls, and the mice get out of the maze faster.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
33:53

A reagent crossed the blood-brain barrier on its own

Sophia injected a mucin-binding reagent into mice and found hours later that it first bound the vasculature, then crossed the blood-brain barrier by itself into the brain parenchyma. Textbooks say proteins cannot cross the blood-brain barrier alone, and this is the biggest pain point for biologics companies making brain drugs. This accidental finding made the team realize it could serve as a shuttle carrier, delivering cargo into the brain. Sophia now has her own lab at Harvard, and she, Bertozzi, Tony and another student are spinning out a company to do brain shuttling.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
36:43

Only 15 CNS biologics are approved

More than 150 biologics have been approved to treat immune disease, a similar number for cancer, but only 15 for central nervous system disease — and most of those go in by intrathecal injection: a lumbar puncture, invasive, a whole day consumed, hard to scale. If those drugs could be turned into ordinary intravenous injections, it would be transformative for patients. The drug classes that could get into the brain include monoclonal antibodies, enzyme replacement therapies, siRNA and antisense oligonucleotides, mRNA lipid nanoparticles, and viral and non-viral gene therapy vectors.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
41:53

CD22 is the brake on the brain's immune cells

Tony's lab found that in microglia of aged and Alzheimer's disease mice, the sugar-binding receptor CD22 (Siglec-2) is upregulated. Bertozzi's lab had previously studied this receptor family in cancer: when they are upregulated they inhibit immune cells, letting cancer cells grow unchecked. Microglia are the brain's scavengers, responsible for eating protein aggregates, and their dysfunction is linked to neurodegenerative disease. Block CD22 with an antibody and old mice have more active microglia and cleaner brains. But at the time there was no brain shuttle, so it could only be injected intracranially, which cannot be a human therapy; now that the shuttle exists, they can go back and revisit that antibody.

— Carolyn Bertozzi
47:13

Today's drugs are built on chemistry from a century ago

Bioorthogonal chemistry was developed in the early 2000s and is now part of the toolkit of chemists and biologists; there are approved drugs on the market that use this chemistry. But looking back for her Nobel lecture, Bertozzi found that the underlying chemistry they used to develop these reactions was published in 1915, in 1919, and in 1950 from Germany — all old German-language journals that needed translating. Those chemists could not possibly have foreseen that someone a hundred years later would use it to make cancer drugs. She says most scientists will not know the true impact of their work in their lifetime, and we have to invest in basic science without knowing the impact or the timeline, or the whole pipeline eventually runs dry.

— Carolyn Bertozzi

In their own words · checked verbatim

but not working on an area doesn't make it unimportant

Carolyn Bertozzi10:06

When a flashlight is on, that's where you look, but you don't see all the dark spaces. You need to have a different flashlight.

Carolyn Bertozzi28:21

There's a big distance between a molecular change and a behavior and understanding everything in between is kind of the ongoing challenge

Carolyn Bertozzi32:00

the textbooks would tell you that proteins on their own don't just cross the blood-brain barrier

Carolyn Bertozzi33:53

CD22 is a break type of receptor. It's inhibitory when it gets engaged with its ligands.

Carolyn Bertozzi42:27

Most scientists right now will not know the true impact of their work in their own lifetime.

Carolyn Bertozzi50:27

you have to invest in that science without knowing what its impact will be and on what timeline. You just have to make the investment. Otherwise, the whole pipeline will eventually dry up.

Carolyn Bertozzi50:27

Figures

Total length of blood vessels in the brain400 miles23:21
Approved biologics for immune diseasemore than 15036:43
Approved biologics for central nervous system disease1536:43
When bioorthogonal chemistry was developedabout 25 years ago, early 2000s47:13
Publication years of the underlying chemistry reactions bioorthogonal chemistry relies on1915, 1919, 195048:01

Glossary

bioorthogonal chemistry
A chemical reaction that can be carried out inside living cells without interfering with natural biological processes, used to label and image molecules such as sugars.
glycome
The complete set of glycans on a cell's surface, the counterpart to the concepts of genome and proteome.
mucin
A heavily glycosylated cell-surface protein, bottlebrush-shaped, forming a thick layer on brain endothelial cells.
CD22 / Siglec-2
A sialic-acid-binding inhibitory receptor that suppresses immune cells in cancer and is upregulated in microglia with age.
brain shuttle
A molecular carrier that can deliver biologic cargo across the blood-brain barrier into the brain.

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Founders and investors working on neurodegenerative disease, blood-brain barrier delivery, glycobiology or biologics R&D; researchers interested in how basic science turns into a company.

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The first 10 minutes cover the history of glycobiology and the M&M analogy; fast-forward to the aging glycome finding at 26:00.