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CME CEO: 2,500 regulatory filings all approved, not a single rejection

The US Commodity Futures Trading Commission has rejected zero of nearly 2,500 new product filings, approving everything from ‘how many hot dogs can Joey Chestnut eat’ to ‘whether George Santos attends the State of the Union’—CME CEO Terry Duffy says this amounts to regulation existing in name only.

Financial regulationPerpetual futuresPrediction marketsHyperliquidCFTC24-hour trading

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Want to understand how US financial regulation gets circumvented and where the legal boundaries lie for perpetual contracts and prediction markets—this episode is dense with information.

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1:02

46-year veteran hands off but doesn't fully step away

Duffy has worked at CME for 46 years, starting at $56 per week, and became chairman when CME went public in 2002. Next year he will transition to executive chairman and hand the CEO title to Lynn Fitzpatrick, but emphasizes he will stay to help her through the initial transition period and will intervene if necessary.

— Terry Duffy
4:05

When regulators approve everything: 2,500 filings, zero rejections

Since the second Trump administration took office, Duffy says, 2,500 self-certified filings submitted to the CFTC have been rejected zero times—including prediction contracts on ‘how many hot dogs can Joey Chestnut eat’ and betting on ‘whether George Santos shows up at the State of the Union’. He believes these contracts obviously violate Core Principle 3 (susceptibility to manipulation), yet regulators pass everything through without question.

— Terry Duffy
6:06

Regulation by executive order evaporates when the administration changes

Duffy points out that the CFTC and SEC now rely on many new rules sidestepping congressional legislation, with agencies writing their own regulations unilaterally—rules that the next administration can wipe away with a pen stroke, just as Trump did with Biden's executive orders after taking office. He argues this is not sustainable regulation; good regulation must survive any change of government.

— Terry Duffy
11:11

Perpetual contracts are swaps—and CME refuses to play that game

Duffy explains that perpetual contracts use funding rates to make long and short positions pay each other to peg the contract to spot prices. Under Dodd-Frank, anything involving mutual payments between counterparties should be classified as a swap, not a futures contract. Futures get the favorable 60/40 long/short-term tax treatment under Section 1256; swaps are taxed as ordinary income and must be cleared and registered within five days. For this reason, CME abandoned launching a 24-hour crude oil perpetual contract and instead launched only a regular 24-hour crude oil mini futures contract.

— Terry Duffy
15:20

Hyperliquid skips KYC—Duffy calls it a Core Principle 9 violation

In response to Hyperliquid founder Jeff Yan's earlier claim on the show that ‘the platform doesn't need to be regulated, the deployer does,’ Duffy counters that the platform itself has not implemented KYC (know your customer) and nobody is reviewing who is trading or what leverage they're using—he notes that leverage products on Hyperliquid can reach 250%, making a move of one or two points enough to trigger cascading liquidations. He argues this violates Core Principle 9, which requires exchanges to surveil their own markets, and if Hyperliquid wants to operate compliantly in the US, it must follow US law.

— Terry Duffy
20:33

GPU futures blocked as national security threat—Duffy isn't buying it

Duffy says the GPU market is already over one trillion dollars and is expected by 2030 to be several times the size of the crypto asset class (currently under $3 trillion), but the government has shelved GPU futures products on national security grounds—a rationale he finds incomprehensible. If the US government truly wants to lead in AI and data centers, it should let the industry use futures to hedge GPU-related risks instead of indefinitely strangling this product category.

— Terry Duffy
22:33

24/7 trading is inevitable—but the banking system is the bottleneck

Duffy believes 24/7 trading is inevitable, but the biggest obstacle is the banking system—banks close after Friday and no one can fund a full week ahead for the $76 trillion US equity market over the weekend. The crypto market is small enough that CME already runs full-time trading, but interest rates and equity products must wait for the banking system to go 24/7 as well. As an interim step, CME plans to expand equity trading hours to 23.5 hours by year-end.

— Terry Duffy
25:35

More frightening than 2008: the day oil went negative

When asked about the scariest moment in his career, Duffy says negative oil prices during the COVID pandemic in 2020 terrified him more than the 2008 financial crisis. On April 20, 2020, he went on television defending WTI crude crashing to negative $37.50, and faced public outrage. What truly frightened him was that there was nowhere to store the physical product and demand evaporated instantly, with no idea how long the condition would persist.

— Terry Duffy

In their own words · checked verbatim

It does feel a bit of a ready fire aim strategy going on right now where anything can go. And so it's very disconcerting.

Terry Duffy4:05

Since the second Trump administration's come into place, there's been 2,500 self-certifications that have been submitted into the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. Not one of them has been denied.

Terry Duffy4:05

So when you look at some of the leveraged products being traded on hyperliquids platform, their leverage can go anywhere from, say, 10 to 15 percent to 250 percent.

Terry Duffy16:21

If the president truly wants to have artificial intelligence, we want to be the leader in it. We want to be the leader of data centers. We need to have a risk offset for these GPUs and other components. This makes no sense to me why they're holding these products back.

Terry Duffy21:33

But risk doesn't know what time of day it is.

Terry Duffy23:34

There's nobody on the planet that could fund, pre-fund on a Friday, a $ 76 trillion market as the banking system is closed.

Terry Duffy23:34

I would say, don't lose your moral compass and be a little bit patient.

Terry Duffy25:35

And I was being crucified why we let oil go to a negative amount.

Terry Duffy27:41

Figures

Duffy's years at CME461:02
Duffy's first week salary$561:02
CFTC self-certified filings rejected0 of 2,5004:05
Hyperliquid leverage range10-15% to 250%16:21
Kalshi leverage limit6x17:21
Crypto asset class sizeunder $3 trillion21:33
US stock market size$76 trillion23:34
WTI crude low, April 20, 2020-$37.5025:35

Glossary

self-certification
A regulatory mechanism allowing exchanges to self-list new contracts without prior CFTC approval.
perpetual futures
Derivatives with no expiration date, anchored to spot prices through funding rates.
funding rate
Periodic payments between long and short positions in perpetual contracts, used to anchor the price to spot.
core principle
Floor-level requirements the CFTC sets for regulated exchanges, such as preventing manipulation and ensuring fair market access.
KYC
Know your customer—a compliance requirement for financial platforms to verify trader identity.
1256 tax treatment
US favorable tax treatment of futures contracts (60% long-term, 40% short-term rates).

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